UAP Gerb's 3-hour investigation of claims that Lockheed holds and exploits recovered UAP material, centered on a 2008-11 attempt by Lockheed VP James Ryder to transfer alleged 1950s crash material to the DIA program via a proposed DHS program ('Kona Blue'), reportedly blocked by the CIA's science directorate.
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| Claim | Verdict | At | Relation |
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| BAASS planned a 5,000 sq ft underground vault to acquire recovered hardware and biological samples from the corporate world | Documented | | reports |
| Catherine Austin Fitts' claim of '$21 trillion missing' is misframed | Smoke, no fire | | reports |
| DoD exempted special access programs from Defense Investigative Service supervision in 1965 | Documented | | reports |
| GAO audited Lockheed's Burbank special-access (carve-out) document controls in 1986 | Documented · occurred | | reports |
| GAO found 1,460 discrepancies out of about 40,000 SAP items at 53 document stations at Lockheed | Documented | | reports |
| Gerb's anonymous sources say two recovered saucers are stored under Oak Ridge | Unproven | | reports |
| Kona Blue was a proposed DHS special access program meant to receive AAWSAP-era material | Documented | | reports |
| Lockheed sold its Enterprise Integration Group to Veritas Capital for $815M in 2010 | Documented | | reports |
| Lockheed took a $950M Q2 2025 charge on a classified aeronautics program | Documented · occurred | | reports |
| Lockheed's Tonopah 'Site 4' stores 'the interesting stuff' and reverse-engineered craft were tested there | Unproven | | reports |
| Martin Marietta bought GE Aerospace in 1993 and General Dynamics Space Systems in 1994 | Documented · occurred | | asserts |
| Martin Marietta, then Lockheed Martin, ran Sandia National Laboratories from 1993 to 2017 | Documented · occurred | | asserts |
| Mary Sturtevant may have helped block Ryder's transfer, per Gerb's speculation | Unproven | | reports |
| Rob Jones theorizes Lockheed offloaded the Kona Blue material inside the $815M EIG sale | Unproven | | reports |
| Robert Cardillo joined Peraton's advisory board in May 2019 | Documented · occurred | | asserts |
| Ryder proposed moving 1950s crash material from a Lockheed facility into a DIA-run waived SAP, and CIA S&T deputy director Glenn Gaffney blocked it | Unproven | | reports |
| Sandia established the Tonopah Test Range in 1957, and the F-117 secretly operated from Tonopah | Documented · occurred | | asserts |
| The Kona Blue material was the 1953 Kingman, AZ craft | Unproven | | reports |
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